Welcome to Inc.'s Founders Project podcast with Alexa Von Tobel, where we bring you tales of guts, inspiration, and drive that define the entrepreneurs building the future. Each week, we dig into a founder's professional playbook and uncover what makes them tick. On this week's episode:

How Naysayers Can Fuel Your Success, With Jason Gardner of Marqeta

In 2010, over a sushi dinner with a friend, Jason Gardner found his next entrepreneurial adventure: Transforming the credit card industry with Marqeta. The "modern card issuer,"  which helps businesses issue custom credit card programs, now works with customers in 39 countries. It also employs a team of nearly 900, and IPO-ed in 2021. Not a bad deal for sushi, but it wasn't always easy: Gardner shared in this episode his strategies for persevering after nearly running out of money in 2015, and why he's fueled by the challenge of people not believing in him.