Welcome to the 24th episode of Inc.'s weekly Founders Project With Alexa von Tobel podcast. This new podcast brings you the stories of the entrepreneurs building the future. Listen to the tales of guts, inspiration, and drive behind the people and companies at the forefront of technology. Each weekly conversation digs into a founder's professional playbook--and starts to uncover what makes him or her tick.

And for the 24th episode:

Why Emotions Are Not a Liability, With Jason Brown of Tally

Money is an inherently emotional topic--and the emotions it tends to inspire are anxiety and fear. Jason Brown is working to change that through Tally. With empathy ingrained in its company culture, Tally now manages more than $400 million of consumer credit card debt, and counting. Jason shares why he gets his best ideas on a weekly 60-mile bike ride, the importance of finding an investor aligned to your mission, and how he's scaling the business while maintaining a sky-high retention rate.

Check out the full episode in the player below or in iTunes, and see a full list of other episodes here.