It's been a hard time for us in the entrepreneurial community recently, as we lost two impactful greats: Kate Spade and Anthony Bourdain. That's why I thought it was beautiful and touching when our fellow columnist Dave Kerpen -- also a serial entrepreneur and a best-selling author -- wrote a compelling and vulnerable article about why it's past time for us to work to destigmatize depression (the article that inspired this conversation can be found here). And, frankly, it's even more important for the startup community, given that entrepreneurs are more likely to be depressed. According to one recent study, one in 3 entrepreneurs struggles with depression.

On my Futureproof podcast this week, I was honored to have my old friend Dave join me to talk about the suicides of Kate Spade and Anthony Bourdain and what we all can do to #DestigmatizeDepression. Part of why we entrepreneurs bottle up our feelings about depression is that it's considered uncool or too vulnerable to share how we feel inside -- but Dave's firsthand experiences with depression in his own life indicate that all of us can be impacted by depression in various ways.

Since it's hard to find time to talk to Dave given his hectic jet-setting schedule, I also made sure to discuss his new role as interim CEO of UMA Health -- an exceptionally compelling startup that helps with booking appointments with mental health professionals -- as well as his love of the Mets. You can listen to the episode below. And remember: If you, or someone you know, are particularly distressed, no one will judge you for seeking help -- please ring the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-8255.

Kate Spade, Anthony Bourdain, and Destigmatizing Depression (featuring Dave Kerpen)