Welcome to the Inc. Uncensored podcast's 61st episode! This week's show is hosted by Inc. editor Jim Ledbetter.

In this episode, Christine Lagorio-Chafkin interviews guest and author Michele Wucker about her new book "The Grey Rhino," about why businesses and leaders ignore big, obvious problems until the problems turn into crises. Jon Fine discusses his pet theory on the recent food trend of ridiculous combinations and layers of fatty-yet-delicious foods. Will Yakowicz talks about sexual identity and politics in light of North Carolina's controversial "bathroom bill," which bans transgender people from using the bathroom associated with their sexual identity. The state has lost $3.1 million in business since the bill's passing into law as companies like Paypal remove business interests from North Carolina. 

You can listen to individual episodes of the Inc. Uncensored podcast, which is part of the Panoply network, on Soundcloud, or on iTunes--where you can also subscribe. We hope you enjoy. Stream the 61st episode above.